[00:00:00] Sandra Cooze: when we're being traumatized, there's two paths we can take, we can take the path of to compassionate person who wants to help others and make the world better for others because it was difficult for them.
[00:00:12] Sandra Cooze: Or we go the direction of being the abuser ourselves because we simply cannot cope with what happened to us.
[00:00:21] Dori Durbin: Trauma can be lifelong experience, and also, unfortunately, it's a very common experience . Even sadder is the fact that kids are not. But what can be done about a traumatic experience and how do we parent through that to help our kids?
[00:00:38] Dori Durbin: Hello, and welcome to The Power of Kids Books, where we believe books are a catalyst to inspire and empower change. I'm your host, Dori Durbin.
[00:00:48] Dori Durbin: Today's guest is an expert trauma healer, a certified traumatic incident reduction facilitator, an intuitive, Coach and mentor, a Reiki master, teacher, and published author of the book, [00:01:00] Journey to Yourself, How to Heal from Trauma.
[00:01:03] Dori Durbin: She also designed the Full Circle Trauma Healing Method, a multi modality approach that not only focuses on releasing the trauma, but also the trauma you carried from your ancestors and generations past. Welcome, Sandra Coos..
[00:01:17] Sandra Cooze: Thank you so much, Dori, for having me.
[00:01:18] Sandra Cooze: It's a pleasure to be here.
[00:01:20] Dori Durbin: So, Sandra? Let me just start with your background and your history as far as, you know, why you even want to help people with trauma itself.
[00:01:31] Sandra Cooze: Sure. Well, to start off, I'm a trauma survivor myself. I was molested when I was 12 years old. I was sexually harassed at the age of 14. I was severely bullied in school from the age of 16 to 17. I was sexually assaulted multiple times between the age of 19 and 25. At the age of 22, I was raped. If that wasn't enough, [00:02:00] when I went to see a psychologist that my family doctor recommended to help me heal from all the trauma I've been through, he dismissed me after the first session saying I believe you already worked through it all, what am I supposed to do?
[00:02:14] Sandra Cooze: That's put me in, yeah, at rock bottom. And the thing with rock bottom is you have two choices. You can either stay down there and risk succumbing to alcohol, drug abuse. trying to cope with the pain or you can climb back out. I don't know what hit me, but I was climbing out and I'm so glad I did because I learned so much about trauma and what really has to happen for us to heal.
[00:02:43] Sandra Cooze: To me, trauma just makes sense. And if something makes sense, We can work on it because it's no secret anymore. There's nothing to fear. It is what it is and we can heal it. And I have such a passion for helping people heal because I [00:03:00] know it's possible because that's what I did.
[00:03:03] Dori Durbin: That is absolutely beautiful.
[00:03:05] Dori Durbin: And I, I love your perspective because I think, I think people get stuck at the rock bottom and they feel like their life is just going to continue to roll that direction. And having survived so much, you are quite a strong voice for that ability to climb out. That's amazing. Thank you.
[00:03:23] Sandra Cooze: Yes.
[00:03:24] Dori Durbin: Yes. So when we talk about trauma, I know that some people are going to go to it being just the extreme, something so bad, but on the other end, it can also be something rather small that makes a significant mark in your mind as well.
[00:03:40] Dori Durbin: Can you talk a little bit about that?
[00:03:43] Sandra Cooze: Yeah, sure. Well, of course we think that trauma is the big stuff. Like the sexual assault, the rape, the car accidents, the sudden death in the family, anything that really catapults us out of our life is considered trauma. But the little things that we don't [00:04:00] creep up on us is the limiting beliefs, self sabotaging behavior.
[00:04:03] Sandra Cooze: That's where generational trauma comes in. That's basically the trauma our parents and grandparents experienced, and the limiting beliefs they have because of that, and they're never able to heal, they teach us. And with that, they limit us. They make us afraid of the things they're afraid of. And that's traumatizing too.
[00:04:23] Sandra Cooze: I always say anything that dims our light, that stops us from being who we are and stops us from fulfilling our dreams, that's coming from trauma.
[00:04:36] Dori Durbin: That's fascinating. And I don't know how many times people really think about the history. Behind them, you know that it's the history that we know, we know what we were like when we were younger than at some point, we don't understand, like, maybe what you remember when you're three, but you don't think about your family's history and their grandparents and how you've learned these beliefs that really, truly could limit
[00:04:59] Sandra Cooze: you.[00:05:00]
[00:05:01] Dori Durbin: So trauma itself can be literally passed on to the next generation is basically what you're showing us.
[00:05:08] Sandra Cooze: Yes, it can be can be passed on indirect with limiting belief self sabotage, but it can also be directly passed down.
[00:05:18] Sandra Cooze: So let's say you have a very abusive father who is mentally verbally, maybe physically abusive. He wasn't born like that. He was created, which means you have to look into his childhood, how he was brought up. How are his parents to him? For example, my grandfather from my father's side, he was very narcissistic, but he was so loving to me and my sister.
[00:05:42] Sandra Cooze: So we never saw that side of him. And I heard horror stories. I still do the same for my aunt. I used to, well, I didn't hear much from my dad, but he was probably so traumatized by my grandfather that he never really spoke up. But I heard a completely different story from my aunt. How horrible it was and how [00:06:00] abusive and what he said and what he did.
[00:06:02] Sandra Cooze: And I was like, that's not a person I know. So when there's abuse in the family, you have to look to the generation before that, because something happened to them that made them this way. Because really when we're being traumatized, there's two paths we can take, we can take the path of to compassionate person who wants to help others and make the world better for others because it was difficult for them.
[00:06:28] Sandra Cooze: Or we go the direction of being the abuser ourselves because we simply cannot cope with what happened to us. And we need the outlet to let out the anger, let out the rage, and don't realize that we are traumatizing the next generation.
[00:06:45] Dori Durbin: That's powerful. It is so, so powerful. And we talked about this a little bit before we started recording.
[00:06:51] Dori Durbin: I think when parents are in a situation where they realize there's trauma going on, they may feel completely helpless and[00:07:00] they're probably a little unsure about, well, what do I do now? Like this has been going on. This was even if you generational, like where, how do you stop it? Right. Do you help people through some of that as well?
[00:07:12] Sandra Cooze: Yes, it's one of my favorite work because it's so powerful to release the beliefs that were put on you by your parents, your grandparents, because those beliefs come from fear. They come from limitations. Think about your grandparents and what time they grew up. There were wars. There was famine. There was.
[00:07:34] Sandra Cooze: poverty. They had to figure out how to live. I mean, I was born and raised in Germany, so I was born in the seventies post war. So the beliefs that they had from them, I was brought up with those. Keep your head high. You have your pride, but don't stray from your lane. You know, you have a job, you work hard, and you take care of your family.
[00:07:59] Sandra Cooze: There was [00:08:00] no follow your dreams, come on, be a little creative, be adventurous. None of that, you know. But it's so constricting. Because it tells us we're not allowed to follow an impulse. Following an impulse is bad. I always taught self pride things. It means don't say you're proud of yourself because that means pride and pride is a bad thing But then being proud of yourself and being pride having pride is two completely different things, right?
[00:08:29] Sandra Cooze: But other people are allowed to be proud of you So I can be proud of you, but it wasn't I'm not allowed to be proud of myself And what that did to me as a child was I constantly was seeking recognition because no one said I'm proud of you for doing that. They expected the great marks in school. So I didn't say I'm proud of you for having an A in biology.
[00:08:52] Sandra Cooze: That's it. Good job. And that was that. Right. But I was, if I was saying, I'm proud of my grade because I work really hard, [00:09:00] my grandma would say, oh, careful, the ceiling is coming down. So you're getting crushed because you're proud. But things like that in adulthood, me creating my business and being there for other people.
[00:09:12] Sandra Cooze: This was so hard to get through to the point where I can confidently say I'm proud of myself for what I achieved. I'm proud of myself for having created a book for sharing my story. That was not easy when I first started out, but I did, and I'm proud of myself for that, but it was a lot of work to get there, so I learned through my limiting beliefs, how to help others crush theirs in record time compared to how long I need it.
[00:09:43] Sandra Cooze: To really get through that and I love the transformation that I see the confidence, especially in women, you know, standing up saying no setting boundaries. That's so important for us women to realize we're important too. We're not just the caretakers of everybody else. We deserve the right to [00:10:00] take care of ourselves and be taken care of by others too.
[00:10:04] Sandra Cooze: And that is so empowering and just by empowering the mother, they go on and empower their children because they do not repeat the same limiting beliefs that they were taught because they crushed through them. They don't exist anymore. And so now they can raise empowered children who won't take this nonsense.
[00:10:24] Sandra Cooze: That's so powerful. That's
[00:10:26] Dori Durbin: awesome. Yeah. And that's where the generational change happens is with that one decision of empowering your kids and yourself and then your kids. Let's say a parent knows or suspects that there was a traumatic incident that happened to their kids.
[00:10:43] Dori Durbin: How does that parent help the child navigate and maybe how important is it for them to be involved in that process?
[00:10:52] Sandra Cooze: Our children trust us unconditionally. They love us unconditionally. We are the [00:11:00] people they are supposed to come to when something is wrong. So the thing is, first, we have to always be present for our children.
[00:11:10] Sandra Cooze: I can tell you, when I was 12 years old, I was molested, as I said, and it was my mother who put me in that situation without knowing. She made it possible for me to take care of a pony, and I absolutely loved it, like any other 12 year old I know, who's crazy about horses. And it was the stable master who molested me then, and he had promised my mother that he would take care of me and make sure that I don't get hurt or anything, and he gained her trust and he gained mine.
[00:11:38] Sandra Cooze: So my mother had no idea whatsoever who this man was. What he was capable of, what he was going to do, but she blamed herself. I don't know. I hope she doesn't anymore because we had long talks about this,
[00:11:58] Sandra Cooze: but when I went [00:12:00] to tell her, the only thing I heard from her was, don't go there anymore. I was 12 years old. I had no idea what happened. I only knew it. Felt wrong. And since I was taught that adults know best and listen to adults, I was like, okay, it has to be something I did. It must've been my fault because it felt bad and he didn't seem to have anything wrong with that.
[00:12:24] Sandra Cooze: So I never got an explanation. That's one thing. Children are more resilient than you know, but you have to give them the opportunity. told my son no matter what, no matter what he does, no matter how angry I get, I'll always love him. I always gave him the assurance. Come to me. And this is something that parents often forget because we're in our kids shoes. We see everything from the adult perspective.
[00:12:51] Sandra Cooze: But the thing with children is we have to go down on their level because they're just going through what we had experienced. Eons ago for us, [00:13:00] it's normal for them. It's brand new. And we keep forgetting that this hit me when I was with my son at the mall and he was a little baby _and his _stroller, and I had to use the bathroom and he was terrified of the flushing toilet and I was like, well, you heard that made me think and realize how many other things he experienced for the very first time.
[00:13:23] Sandra Cooze: And I don't do clue what to deal with. What to do with that. And so always go down to the level of your child and think about what your child may be experiencing and then talk to your child from their perspective. Explain it to them to understand. I cry in front of my son. I have no issue with that.
[00:13:43] Sandra Cooze: Don't hide your emotions. And I'm trying off a little bit, but it's such a huge subject of what we can do to help our children show our vulnerability. It's okay. Show them it's okay to cry. How many boys, how many men have been taught? You don't cry. That's [00:14:00] horrible. I mean, you're shutting down a part of you.
[00:14:04] Sandra Cooze: You need your emotions. They're important because if you can't show your emotions, you get angry because you have no outlet. And then we have a big problem, especially when trauma is involved. Yeah.
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[00:14:36] Dori Durbin: Is that what happens for most. Adults is that when there's something traumatic, then it's like that emotion just gets closed down. And that's probably what kids do as well.
[00:14:47] Sandra Cooze: Yes. It's the trigger because when you're being traumatized, especially when it's sexually, your body, the only home you will ever have has been violated. So [00:15:00] you don't feel safe in your home.
[00:15:03] Sandra Cooze: And that's really what trauma is. You're not feeling safe anymore. And releasing the trauma means you get your sense of safety back and yes, so. We shut down the trauma because we do not want to relive the experience. We don't want to feel that and that is exactly the problem because what goes in means the emotions we suppress has to come back out to leave.
[00:15:27] Sandra Cooze: And that's why some. When we're suppressing trauma for decades, sometimes there's always this power moment, something will eventually trigger us that brings all of that rushing back. And then what? You're reliving everything. And that's even more intense than the first time.
[00:15:51] Dori Durbin: So when that happens, I'm assuming there are more symptoms that will result, like, Panic attacks, maybe sleeplessness, those kinds of things.
[00:15:59] Dori Durbin: Is [00:16:00] that usually when people start to notice that there, there was a trauma that they've been blocking and ignoring? Well,
[00:16:07] Sandra Cooze: it depends for everybody. It's different. Some people they have images come back of things they have suppressed for so long. They completely forgot about it. I mean, I forgot what happened to me at 12 and 14 for the longest time until I was 6 and I had sex ed in school, and they talked about what to do when you face sexual assault, and then I was like, oh, my goodness, this happened to me, and then everything came rushing back what I've been through, and that was re traumatizing, and this is what's going to happen when the triggers come back up.
[00:16:37] Sandra Cooze: Some people just pile on the trauma because you are reacting to whatever life throws at you because you suppress the bad. You cannot feel the good. You cannot feel happy without opening the can of worms. to the back. Emotions don't work that way.
[00:16:57] Sandra Cooze: You either feel nothing or you feel it all. [00:17:00] But on the other hand, once you went through your trauma, you release your trauma, you heal it, you can feel however you want because no emotion is threatening. Most people suppress their emotions because they don't want to feel the negative emotions. But the negative emotions tell you what needs healing with inside of you.
[00:17:18] Sandra Cooze: The happy emotions are gifts. But the negative emotions are so important, more important than the happy ones. Because that shows there is something you need to work on. Otherwise, you wouldn't feel this way.
[00:17:31] Dori Durbin: That's really fascinating. I saw an emotions wheel one day and it had three positive emotions and the rest were all like shades of negative emotions.
[00:17:41] Dori Durbin: And it's fascinating that that's what we try to shut down all the time and try to live in that little quadrant of happiness when we need them all.
[00:17:50] Sandra Cooze: But in the quadrant of happiness, that's not happiness. That's conditioned. Happiness. True happiness is, it's [00:18:00] incredible. You know, when you have this bubbling up, you know, your heart chakra flutters like a butterfly and you just, you see joy in everything, the air smells better, the trees look greener and you're just, really, it is like you can feel it all and you're not constricted.
[00:18:16] Sandra Cooze: You're not restricting yourself from feeling something you don't want to feel. You allow to feel everything and that is incredible because then you're free. Trauma is like, holding on to trauma is a prison you create yourself because you're not allowing yourself to let it go for whatever reason. But letting it go is freedom because once it's gone, it doesn't come back.
[00:18:43] Sandra Cooze: My story feels unimportant. I have no connection to it anymore. It's like it never exists. It never happened. That's what trauma healing does. It doesn't make it unhappened as part of your story, but it feels like it was never important. It was [00:19:00] never
[00:19:04] Sandra Cooze: So what
[00:19:07] Dori Durbin: happens when somebody comes to you and they've had a traumatic event? What is kind of your overarching process? And I'm sure it's different for each person, but just in general,
[00:19:19] Sandra Cooze: it depends what are the healing journey. Usually. Most people find me after they have their tower moment, where the whole trauma comes rushing back.
[00:19:29] Sandra Cooze: Most of that, most of the people that come to me are in the middle ages. You know, like right before the midlife crisis, when you wonder like, what am I going to do with my life? What legacy am I leaving behind? What did I do in my life that it has meaning? That's usually when a tower moment happens and everything comes rushing back because we're trying to think and go inside and that's when they find me and then we have a free consultation.
[00:19:57] Sandra Cooze: So we talk about it and see what [00:20:00] approach best works for them. Some people are ready for deep trauma healing. Others say, well, I'm very interested in spiritual things that you do, like the ancestral generational, the Reiki and all of that, because this is also useful for trauma healing. There's no one size fits all.
[00:20:17] Sandra Cooze: There never was. That's why therapy works for some but not for others. So, when someone comes to me and they have just been releasing the Suppressed Trauma, we start with Traumatic Incident Reduction, which is the most amazing modality no one has ever heard of.
[00:20:37] Dori Durbin: I hadn't heard of it
[00:20:38] Sandra Cooze: before.
[00:20:40] Sandra Cooze: Good, I'm glad, so I don't have to really go so deep into the matter. But it's... It's very fascinating because it's, first of all, it's evidence based, which means it has proven time and time again that it does work. It brings results, it releases the trauma, and the beauty of this modality is it's not just [00:21:00] intense trauma, but also PTSD.
[00:21:03] Sandra Cooze: It's truly amazing how little we know about, you know, mental health issues, anxiety, depression, PTSD are all based in trauma. We release the trauma, we release those issues. That's why I love TIR because not only is it. Effective and evidence based, and I can only repeat that. It is fast. Five to six sessions, and you can release one traumatic incident. It's that quick.
[00:21:35] Dori Durbin: So, okay, so for the TIR, just in case people don't know, can you explain a little bit about what that is?
[00:21:43] Sandra Cooze: Yes. Traumatic Incident Reduction, or short TIR, is, in a way, a little bit like coaching, only in a sense that it's a lot of questions. So basically we start with the intake session when we talk about it and make a [00:22:00] list of things we can work through.
[00:22:02] Sandra Cooze: And then we will decide which subject we're going to start with. Now usually there is at least five or six. Usually during the time there's always more coming out. That's normal. So we don't have to have the full list. And I always like to start with something that's easy to release. Just so that my clients get the feel for how TR works without being too overwhelmed.
[00:22:23] Sandra Cooze: It was the process because it's something to get used to, but then TR is always the same. It's predictable. So once you've been through around, you know exactly what to expect, which I really like. There's no surprises unless there are triggers coming up. You didn't see coming. That's the only surprise, but then we go into exploration.
[00:22:43] Sandra Cooze: Once we decide on a sub, so we just talk about. The subject just, you know, what happened things I got just randomly a little bit to get a little feel and then we go into unblocking and unblocking is a series of 20 questions. [00:23:00] Most of the time. We don't need 20 questions. So the questions are. Specifically designed to bring mini triggers to the surface.
[00:23:09] Sandra Cooze: So every time something pops into your head, that's a mini trigger. You talk about it and you release it without even realizing what you're doing. So the beauty of this question is that they're very powerful, even though I don't realize it. And each question gets asked repeatedly. So I ask it again and again until you say, okay, nothing else pops up.
[00:23:32] Sandra Cooze: And that's the core of TIR. Because you have to think the first trigger is right at the top, you release that and the next one underneath is coming up. Once that is gone, the next one underneath is coming up. And so after the third or fourth trigger coming up, sometimes I may have to say, Oh, well, I didn't even remember that.
[00:23:52] Sandra Cooze: That's so weird. You know, but so we bring each trigger slowly to the surface and release it. [00:24:00] And this is usually three, maybe four sessions. depending on how deep the trauma is. And only until the questions get so easy that nothing more is coming up or it feels lighter, we go to the last part, which is the actual TIL where we go into the story, into the incident, what happened.
[00:24:19] Sandra Cooze: And then I asked my client again and again and again, tell me what happened among other things. And so this is the last big trigger that we'll release. The incident. And during that time, you can experience shortness of breath when a trigger is just about to come to the surface. You can cry, you can feel angry.
[00:24:42] Sandra Cooze: I mean, you have to repeat the story so often. Some of my clients, they yell at me, but it's okay. I'm used, I've heard every swear word on the planet, but that's okay because my clients are releasing. So then I told him back and I tell him, don't you dare hold back, let it out. [00:25:00] It has to go. And then after it feels like as if they were telling the story and say, well, I have wooden floors, doesn't matter to anyone, not even to them.
[00:25:11] Sandra Cooze: And that's how powerful TIR is with just a few sessions. And it's incredible. I always show up with my clients. I want to work as little as possible with you because you have a life to live. So I am not anchoring them in for three months, six months, nine months. They know when they're ready. They know when they're finished.
[00:25:34] Sandra Cooze: That's awesome.
[00:25:35] Dori Durbin: It doesn't seem like it would be so invasive that you would be dreading doing it. And it doesn't seem like it's something that you're trying to spend hours and hours on at home trying to backfill what's going
[00:25:48] Sandra Cooze: on either. No, you're just releasing and a lot of my clients after the second session, like two unblocking sessions, they already feel How they're changing, how they're [00:26:00] feeling better.
[00:26:00] Sandra Cooze: And we haven't even finished with the incident. So change can happen really fast and they'll notice. Wow.
[00:26:08] Dori Durbin: And do you think it's possible to do that with kids? Or do you think there's like a certain age that maybe it's more effective?
[00:26:16] Sandra Cooze: There is a specific TIR for children. I have not studied that yet because I haven't had the opportunity.
[00:26:22] Sandra Cooze: There was no course where I lived and then I moved, so I haven't had the opportunity yet. But you can start working with teenagers when they're mature enough to understand the questions, then yes. But there's most definitely TIR. Facilitators out there who do work with children because it's a little different than a one for adults.
[00:26:44] Sandra Cooze: It's gentler to help them. Yeah, once I have the opportunity for that course, I will take it. But so far, I haven't had it yet. Yeah, that's
[00:26:53] Dori Durbin: fair. You've been busy and I totally, totally get that. Well, speaking of busy, um, I [00:27:00] do want to talk, touch a little bit on your book, um, because I know this is one of a few.
[00:27:06] Dori Durbin: And so the journey to yourself, how to heal from trauma book is really intended for parents, right? Or adults. And you want to talk a little bit about that and then your upcoming, um, books and concepts.
[00:27:19] Sandra Cooze: Yes, I would love to. Well, my book Journey to Yourself is a trilogy. At first it was supposed to be like a spiritual book about self help and everything like everybody else writes, but the more I wrote, the more my knowledge of trauma healing came through and I thought, okay, if I put all of this in one book, it's going to be like encyclopedia of a thousand pages.
[00:27:42] Sandra Cooze: Like I cannot do this to people. This is too much. And so I decided to break it up. So journey to yourself, how to heal from trauma written by someone who did that's on the very bottom of the title, um, is [00:28:00] first of all, my story, what I've been through, but my story is only about 10 pages and the rest of the book.
[00:28:06] Sandra Cooze: I unraveled trauma. I demystified. I pick it apart to really bring understanding. from a trauma survivor who has fully healed what trauma really is to bring to make sense to take the fear out of it because when we think about trauma we think about the story but it's not the story that needs to be released it's the feelings that we hold on to from the story that need to be released because the story will never change and so with my book i'm hoping to help people structure own journey.
[00:28:39] Sandra Cooze: So I have journaling techniques. I have room for notes. I have interesting and unique exercises. I have three other experts sharing their approach to trauma healing. One is EFT, tapping. One is recreational therapy. The other is yoga. So very interesting to have other modalities that are less invasive, even as [00:29:00] TIR.
[00:29:01] Sandra Cooze: It can help you with trauma healing if you are drawn to that, to open the door, to look outside the box of what we're taught we should do with our mental health. Seek a therapist or psychologist, and then when it doesn't work, well, now what? I don't like now what. That's always an answer. So I'm with my book.
[00:29:21] Sandra Cooze: I'm hoping to get people on the path to really understanding themselves, their emotions, and start working with my book on releasing the trauma on their own because I did it on my own. So you can too. Right. And then book two, which I'm working on right now is Journey to Yourself, How to Unbecome Who You Were Taught to Be.
[00:29:48] Sandra Cooze: So that's when I go into the generational aspect of the limiting beliefs, the self sabotage, I, like, pick apart all those fears, like fear of failure, fear of success, fear of being [00:30:00] seen, fear of being heard. Then I talk about... Let's say money issues, money blocks, you know, the belief that money is hard to come by and things like that unraveling all of that.
[00:30:09] Sandra Cooze: So we can be successful in life, love and business. I talk about how briefly how we can empower our children by sharing stories of me and my son. And I talk about how we can empower our relationships.
[00:30:23] Dori Durbin: Well, I think we all start with the first one. And let you finish up the second one. It sounds like we'll be really ready for that one. I think that sounds fabulous.
[00:30:32] Dori Durbin: Thank you.
[00:30:33] Dori Durbin: Yes, yes, writing one book is a lot but trying to dissect and reconstruct in a book is quite, quite a challenge. I'm excited for you.
[00:30:46] Sandra Cooze: Thank you. Once I finished my first one and I had to sit down for my next one, I was like, what was I thinking? But then again, I love writing, always have. So there's a novel in there somewhere.[00:31:00]
[00:31:00] Sandra Cooze: One thing I really loved about my book was that people who read it, several have told me the book grows with you. So in the beginning, when you read it the first time, you're probably going to be triggered by my story. I apologize. I was very off, very raw and very honest.
[00:31:17] Sandra Cooze: But I wrote it in a way that you can see that I healed and I have compassion for myself and the people around me. So then as you work through my book, there are things that will resonate with you in the beginning. And then you read it six months later, you will pick up on something you didn't even notice was in the book because you weren't ready to see it.
[00:31:33] Sandra Cooze: So it's definitely a book that can help you throughout your journey in every. Stage name is something to keep in mind.
[00:31:41] Dori Durbin: Well, I'm excited to take a look at it and to read through it. And for the next one and for the third one, especially. But where can people find you, Sandra? Where's the easiest place and what else should be looking for from
[00:31:53] Sandra Cooze: you? Well, I think the easiest place is my website. [00:32:00] It's riseaboveyourstory.
[00:32:02] Sandra Cooze: com. Very simple. Then on Facebook, you can find me on the Rise Above Your Story and almost everywhere else on Sandra Coos. I do have a YouTube channel, still small but growing, in terms of videos. I just started this year. It's called Sandra Coos Unfiltered, where I talk about whatever pops into my mind. So it's very eclectic, the videos that you see.
[00:32:28] Sandra Cooze: I offer my clients a lot. I offer T. I. R. Of course, I offer spiritual healing like reiki and cord cutting and whatever they need in a spiritual journey. I offer ancestral generational healing and I'm right now in the process of building, um. Ancestral healing circle that I will repeat every three months, give or take for about 15 people that we come together and I help [00:33:00] them release ancestral issues so that they can move on in their journey because not every trauma that we are dealing with is ours.
[00:33:08] Dori Durbin: Awesome. Oh, and where can they find your book?
[00:33:12] Sandra Cooze: My book is, if you'd like a signed copy, go through my website, if you look on Amazon, you'll find it there, there's also a link to it on my website, so if you can't find my book on a journey to yourself, how to heal from trauma, look for my name.
[00:33:29] Sandra Cooze: Then you should find it as the author and it should be on Barnes and Noble and for Canada It's on Ingram so you can get it through chapters and colds
[00:33:43] Dori Durbin: We'll put some of those links in the show notes So if there's something that they're looking for from you, they can hop down there afterwards and look through that But Sandra you have been just a huge wealth of knowledge today I've loved every minute of it And I just thank you for what you're willing to do and [00:34:00] how you've just demonstrated how to rise above.
[00:34:04] Sandra Cooze: Thank you. It was a pleasure being here. Really enjoyed it. Thank you.
